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Post by XAOTL on Mar 30, 2008 6:11:08 GMT 12
How do u guys feel this ships gonna go? With May showing up in Sinnoh (Probably without Drew) what do you see for the ship?
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Post by LuciferIX on Mar 30, 2008 7:55:09 GMT 12
It really will depend on the situation that she will be in for the episode. Not having Drew with her will be a good first sign against the Contestshippers but it could still hurt us a bit if it turns out to be as uneventful as Misty's return. It would be under the same circumstances that we say against the Pokeshippers. With the exception that Misty at one time had a cannon crush on Ash, so there would be a higher expectation of what would happen when she reappeared.
May on the other hand has no cannon relationship. So any hint could be taken a little more seriously here. It could wind us up at the top if we get a couple good hints (a big welcome back hug would be enough for me) or it could send us right back where we were before the episode was even announced. Perhaps even lower sadly.
This is also a pivotal episode for Pearlshippers as well. If Dawn sees any competition in having May be with Ash then her feelings could be confirmed and give Pearlshippers a hint. Again on the other hand if she starts to tease May over her feelings or start to play matchmaker (as we have had her do in many fanfics) then it would be a big put down for their probability.
So to put it simply, this isn't just a major episode for just us but all four major Pokemon shippings. It could make or break any of them.
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Post by Elite4James on Mar 30, 2008 10:20:15 GMT 12
Things is, Japanese don't really do hugs. Anything such as eye contact, lack thereof or minor close body language can be considered hints. This is a turning point for either Pearlshipping or Advanceshipping, we'll just have to wait and see.
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Post by LuciferIX on Mar 30, 2008 10:29:50 GMT 12
Good point, I forgot about that. I should have been thinking more towards the Japanese side of things when I was typing it instead of Western thinking. In that case the hug would be a major hint, but I still would like to see it.
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Post by Elite4James on Mar 30, 2008 10:33:32 GMT 12
Really any form of minor body language can be construed as a hint of some form of affection. It is hard for us to predict but I would like to see Ash with his Terracotta ribbon half and Dawn asking questions about it and then teasing him about sharing half of a trinket with a girl.
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Post by narutoninja44 on Mar 30, 2008 12:30:35 GMT 12
Lucifer makes a very good point there, this will, as he said 'make or break' any of those shippings. The weird thing about me is that I love to see how the fans react much more to the episode itself.XP The contestshippers: have their flamethrowers ready to attack us (or anyone for that matter) just because Drew wasn't metioned. Or if our green haired coordinator does appear, this'll be shoved in our faces for getting our hopes up. Also that'll further their hints.XO The pearlshippers: are hoping for jealousy from our Dawn and Ash to just see May as a friend. And from my pearlshipping friends, I know they are a bit more subtle about the hints than our contestshipping and pokeshipping rivals can be. Still, if this is show, we will be seeing some happiness from their end. If not, they'll just see it as a lost opurtunity and will still be hoping for some cheerleading in Pastoria Gym.xD Pokeshippers: will laugh at us if no signs accure(sp?). And will probably bring the flamethrowers if there is any.=P Advanceshippers: Must I say this? We're happy May's coming anyways.(Or at least I am.) And if theres no hints...well: I also heard Paul's appearing somewhere along these episodes...Ikarishipping anyone?XD
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Post by Elite4James on Mar 30, 2008 12:32:03 GMT 12
If Paul does appear, what if a new ship is formed between him and May?!
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Post by narutoninja44 on Mar 30, 2008 12:34:19 GMT 12
Well obviously there will be (You no how some people can be...). The real worry is if theres ANY hints! If their is I will run outside and scream: ITS THE SIGN OF THE APOCALYPSE!!!111!!!!11111!!!!!!9!
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Post by DaveTheFishandChipsGuy on Mar 30, 2008 12:37:27 GMT 12
whoa, i hadn't thought of that James. but people seem to like shipping May with really arrogant guys.
not metioning any green-haired, rose-giving co-ordinators here, you understand. ;D
who knows, maybe this episode will in fact "end" a couple of ships. The fact that May's returning could be a double-edged sword as far as we're concerned...
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Post by LuciferIX on Mar 30, 2008 12:46:04 GMT 12
I wouldn't doubt that there is a shipping for Paul/May already. Although it most likely is just someone gave it a name and that was about it. As NN said, there are people out there that will create a shipping for any two characters, even if they've never met before.
A double-edged sword is a great was of describing it Dave. Because we may just may possibly be one of the ships that loses it chance to be the true cannon shipping.
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Post by DaveTheFishandChipsGuy on Mar 30, 2008 12:57:07 GMT 12
Yeah, when you first brought it up, i thought that it was like a new boss moving in, and no-one knows whether they're still gonna have a job the next day.
Basically, the main Ash and May ships are likely to have their fate decided with this episode. The way I see it is that there are these possible outcomes.
Outcome 1 (best-case): AdvanceShipping becomes canon = Pearlshippers still have hope, Poke/Contestshippers go and rot in hell.
Outcome 2: Ash is happy to see May as a friend, Dawn isn't jealous of May, May makes no mention of Drew = stalemate, everything continues as it always has.
Outcome 3: Ash is happy to see May as a friend, Dawn IS jealous of May, May makes no mention of Drew = slight PearlShipping hint, we still live in hope.
Outcome 4 (worst case): Ash is happy to see May as a friend, Dawn is jealous of May, May mentions Drew = slight PearlShipping hint, Contestshippers rub this in our face.
Outcome 5 (absolute worst case): Ash is unhappy to see May at all, Dawn kills May out of jealousy, after May has mentioned she is engaged to Drew, Ash then goes to be with Misty = Not gonna happen.
As long as the last two don't happen i don't really mind. If the first one happens it would be amazing!
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Post by LuciferIX on Mar 30, 2008 13:25:08 GMT 12
Well there is another outcome
Outcome 1.5: We get a hint or two but still not enough to be considered cannon, Dawn isn't jealous of May, no mention of Drew
While the first one would be the absolute best outcome, 1.5 and 2 would be the most likely ones to appear. But like you anything but the last two would be fine. Especially if Dawn's jealousy sparks something inside May for Ash.
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Post by DaveTheFishandChipsGuy on Mar 30, 2008 13:31:38 GMT 12
Yeah i agree with you there. I still reckon that all the hints will be on May's side, and that may spark some from Dawn.
Though the writers probably still think that Ash the densest person in the universe. Honestly, I'm suprised that boy can swim...
EDIT: I have just realised that this thread is in the ContestShipping section, so i thought i'd share my opinion on this particualy ship, without re-activating any other threads in the section.
I recently added this opinion to my ff.net profile:
DrewXMay - ContestShipping - I was watching AG with a mate, and these two were on the screen. He said "Man, those two are obviously going out together." I immediatly smacked him over the head. This was about 3 years ago. I only discovered shipping in October last year. That's how much I despise this ship, I hated it before I even knew it exsisted. Every time I try to think of this ship being realistic, I wanna throw up. Drew is the kind of guy every guy like me wants to punch in the face, a complete wanker who only wants to get into girls pants, only caring about their looks, not their feelings. Or maybe I'm just bitter due to my perpetual lack of a girlfriend...
No, wait, it's everything else.
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Post by LuciferIX on Mar 30, 2008 14:15:04 GMT 12
Here here, Drew definitly gives us guys a bad name. Although not having a girlfriend doesn't help our overall opinion of those type of people.
Again I agree with you that if the are any hints it'll be either all on May's side or if it is on Ash's side it will be more subtle almost unconscious behavior.
And I didn't notice that this was in that section as well. I guess I thought that it was just under the general discussion of Advanceshipping.
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Post by Praetor on Mar 30, 2008 17:33:30 GMT 12
This thread was meant for how popular contestshipping will end up after the episode.
Paul and May???
Inconceivable...
The contestshippers , like some of you said, are probably saying (actually hoping) that the episode will go by uneventful, in other words, no shipping clues between Ash and May.
Whether there will be clues or not, at least it brings May to the public's attention. This attention will hopefully heal Advanceshipping (popularize it) by at least a small margine.
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