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Post by cascade88 on May 12, 2008 21:11:42 GMT 12
Actually, the mod that initially banned the mentioning of old hints, the Luvdisc scene in particular, has seemingly lifted the ban:
Which, yay and all that for the removal of the ban, but now the debate thread has turned into a ''What if Drew and Ash shared May, and maybe Misty, and/or Brianna and Dawn were there, too?" thread. And no, I'm not kidding. I mean, it is kinda funny, in a sick sort of way, and it's better than seeing everyone fight and argue and develop ulcers, but still...
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Post by Elite4James on May 13, 2008 1:01:50 GMT 12
Yes, I'll refer to you as either LuciferIX or Matt; whichever I deem fit. LOL what are you? A super villian? Who talks like that!
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Post by LuciferIX on May 13, 2008 4:45:17 GMT 12
Actually, the mod that initially banned the mentioning of old hints, the Luvdisc scene in particular, has seemingly lifted the ban: Which, yay and all that for the removal of the ban, but now the debate thread has turned into a ''What if Drew and Ash shared May, and maybe Misty, and/or Brianna and Dawn were there, too?" thread. And no, I'm not kidding. I mean, it is kinda funny, in a sick sort of way, and it's better than seeing everyone fight and argue and develop ulcers, but still... So the ban was on all old hints? They actually should have kept it on, because if we can't use the old hints its only fair that they can't use the old hints either. Now what would they have for new hints? Not much of a debate thread if all that actually will take place. Besides there is no way in heaven or hell that the Pokeshippers would allow Ash to be with anyone but Misty. So even that "sharing" theme wouldn't last too well. Heck it wouldn't last for really any of the shippings. How many of us actually like seeing May with Drew? Unless you are a multishipper of both Advance and Contest (which are not exceptionally easy to come by) most Advanceshippers would hate that. As well as the same concept for the CSers. They are still just getting annoyed that we won't collapse and disappear because they consider themselves canon, thats all it comes down to right now. And they are amending themselves simply because it became a rallying point for our cause.
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Post by cascade88 on May 13, 2008 5:03:02 GMT 12
So the ban was on all old hints? They actually should have kept it on, because if we can't use the old hints its only fair that they can't use the old hints either. Now what would they have for new hints? Not much of a debate thread if all that actually will take place. Besides there is no way in heaven or hell that the Pokeshippers would allow Ash to be with anyone but Misty. So even that "sharing" theme wouldn't last too well. Heck it wouldn't last for really any of the shippings. How many of us actually like seeing May with Drew? Unless you are a multishipper of both Advance and Contest (which are not exceptionally easy to come by) most Advanceshippers would hate that. As well as the same concept for the CSers. They are still just getting annoyed that we won't collapse and disappear because they consider themselves canon, thats all it comes down to right now. And they are amending themselves simply because it became a rallying point for our cause. Well actually, they were still allowing the roses to be brought up, ban or no ban. But yeah, the whole polyshipping thing is pretty much one big on-going joke at this point. No one's really seriously considering the idea. Of course, I personally haven't touched the subject of ''sharing May'' because the whole concept is beyond ridiculous, but maybe that's just my opinion. I mean, yeah, I'm a multishipper, but I think it speaks volumes that they'd all rather accept the idea of an Ash/May/Drew relationship as opposed to just Advanceshipping itself.
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Post by LuciferIX on May 13, 2008 5:39:09 GMT 12
Figures that they would be exempt from their own ban. In fact I was expecting the fact that the ban was only on our hints and not their own. Like I mentioned before, if they ban all the old hints then we would win hands down. And funny thing is even if you ban just the hints with roses, CS kinda runs out of steam real fast.
They only say that they would accept that new combination because it might get a few of use to shut up. With them trying to promote the Ash/May/Drew relationship it can still be them promoting one portion of the triangle and leaving the other corner to rot. Even as a multishipper I wouldn't expect someone like you to start combining your shippings together just to stop an argument. People like the shippings that they chose simply because they think that the two people go well together. And from what I've seen from virtually all of the CSers,they would rather see Ash miles away from May.
I will admit though it is a clever ploy and might trick a few people, but you can't just create a new three-way shipping to try and get two combatants to settle down. No matter how it might look on the outside, beyond that covering its still the same.
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Post by PokeTrance on May 13, 2008 5:55:55 GMT 12
Meh. Forum battles... Reminds me of certain situations at a Dutch board and some game board... Of course, I'm still a noobie and don't even have an account on the serebii forums, but IMHO people should calm down a bit. Really, it's useless. And as for the topicopener, I figured you are the host of this forum? Anyways, I really think you do a good think by warning all of us not to get into this 'debate' with contestshippers any harder. We're all good people eh? Can think in a mature way, having no problem at all and keep this battle a rest for a while...
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Post by XAOTL on May 13, 2008 6:41:57 GMT 12
As Yhatzi said. 'I've never really understood the crusader like fans that consoles attract. It's usually because your mom has only enough money to buy you one console, and if it turns out you didn't pick out the winner; the best thing to do, was go in denial. Until the very fabric of reality spontaniously changes. Because god knows that that is more likely to happen than you admitting false.'
Console fans and shippers have a lot in comon. Neither would give an inch to their opponents. Ensuring that any form of critisism would recive a flaming welcome. All going into a state of denial to the fact that No One will actually end up winning. as the idea of a Draw seems unbeleavable(sp).
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Post by DaveTheFishandChipsGuy on May 13, 2008 6:47:47 GMT 12
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Post by narutoninja44 on May 13, 2008 7:57:19 GMT 12
-shakes head- I thought I come here not only to be with peeps who likes shippings I do, but also to get away from school and school-like behavior. You guys make me feel like Ima in school and I've heard complaining. (Trust me, I keep my ears open and mouth shut.) Seriously, can't we all get along? And Ima not kidding this time. Seriously, if put aside what shipping we liked for whatever thing. We probably could be great friends with one another. I remember something, when I was roaming PikamasterADV's FF.net profile before it got updated. He said that shipping is what tears fandoms apart. Because you don't know who you might run into the next day, and it might be that Pokeshipper you flamed online yeterday, or the Contestshipper who bashed you for liking Advanceshipping. If you wonder why I have contestshipping friends is that I go onto the KibaHina FC on a naruto forum. (I tend to bring pokemon in time and time again.) But I was (and I still am) friends with a few people. They joined a few weeks proir to the last pokemon talk, and I decided to bring it up. Shippings came back and we found out, that contestshippers LOVE KibaHina. But when I told them I supported advanceshipping, they said, "It's alright. Because we're friends and its stupid to fight over shippings when we became friends BEFORE we knew what eachother prefered to ship." That made me smile. And I don't like lecturing, but really. This is getting on my nerves. Ima nota great peace advocate, but just this once. I wish we didn't have to complain about how they acted. Because, we're kinda acting the same way.
My point? We shouldn't fight over stupid things, and everyones kind of a hypocrite about complaining about someones ship.
Sorry, I'd had to say this you guys.<=/
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Post by LuciferIX on May 13, 2008 8:00:15 GMT 12
Actually you bring up good points there NN. I remember seeing that on Pikamaster's profile. Its just kinda easy to forget things like that when specific situations come up.
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Post by narutoninja44 on May 13, 2008 8:02:50 GMT 12
But we've got to remember those points. Even in certain situations, we've got to remember, we're all people. That's why Ima putting what my friends said about our shippings on my sig (it's been needing a revamp lately anyway).
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Post by masterofmirage on May 13, 2008 9:20:53 GMT 12
*tears in eyes* gr8 job NN that'll be the reason why i don't really like arguments between shipping although i do support advanceshipping but not contest, ability(to a point, JB), and pokeshipping
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Post by JbstormburstADV on May 13, 2008 10:17:38 GMT 12
Don't worry, I respect that, since it really isn't that poppular anymore, although an Anabel appearance will definitely help with that. I mean, I can ship Ash to, at this point, 3 or more different ships, so I can deal.
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Post by masterofmirage on May 13, 2008 10:59:18 GMT 12
good to hear your not explelling me now why does everyone even try to bash ships at others? it's not like it's going to change the pokemon plot, it's just a personal preference or at least it is for unhardcore shippers.
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Post by narutoninja44 on May 13, 2008 11:14:22 GMT 12
good to hear your not explelling me now why does everyone even try to bash ships at others? it's not like it's going to change the pokemon plot, it's just a personal preference or at least it is for unhardcore shippers. People bash shippings because they think that its the only way to get their point across. Like how some people cause fist fights and others use the F-word in every sentence.;P Thank You for the comment on my little speech.
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