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Post by JbstormburstADV on May 9, 2008 9:42:04 GMT 12
Oh MOTHER!!!! The ContestShippers are going to rub this in our faces for a long, long, looong time. It's just too depressing right now...
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Post by Elite4James on May 9, 2008 9:49:01 GMT 12
Who cares. They got as much out of this episode as we did, which is nothing.
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Post by RobSp1derp1g on May 9, 2008 9:56:03 GMT 12
can anyone tell me if DP078 is on youtube? if it isn't when will it be uploaded?
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Post by Elite4James on May 9, 2008 9:57:21 GMT 12
It isn't. Wait for it tomorrow.
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Post by Praetor on May 9, 2008 10:05:37 GMT 12
The results from the recent episodes... ...Gained a major hint - Ash's and May's ribbon. ...A greater chance that Vineshipping is dead. Things don't look too good for us now; Vineshipping is a very important push for our ship. I'm not sure if that was worth trading for the ribbon hint. Was this episode DP 77 only or DP 77 and 78?
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Post by cascade88 on May 9, 2008 10:16:53 GMT 12
The results from the recent episodes... ...Gained a major hint - Ash's and May's ribbon. ...A greater chance that Vineshipping is dead. Things don't look too good for us now; Vineshipping is a very important push for our ship. I'm not sure if that was worth trading for the ribbon hint. Was this episode DP 77 only or DP 77 and 78? It was just 77. But like I already said on Bulbaforums, I don't think that the circumstances for our ship are as god-awful as people seem to think they are. Vineshipping wasn't like the basis for our ship or anything. It was a nice parrallel for our couple, but just because it probably doesn't exist anymore doesn't many that all hope is lost.
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Post by Praetor on May 9, 2008 10:21:29 GMT 12
While it wasn't a basis for our ship, it is still an important parallel for it. It is a very good reason for Advanceshipping to be canon.
I'm still hoping that Ash's bulbasaur evolved as well.
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Post by LuciferIX on May 9, 2008 11:31:59 GMT 12
Well we also have think of the simple fact that if it actually is love between them, evolution shouldn't matter all that much. Zea is covering pretty close to this issue in "You're Not My Bulbasaur!" Although this will definitly put a dent in the shipping, there is no definites as of yet.
Although it would be nice if Ash's Bulbasaur followed suit out of its want to be with May's.
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Post by Praetor on May 9, 2008 12:06:43 GMT 12
^ The concern would be that the writers may not be thinking the same way.
They must have something planned since May's Squirtle and bulbasaur turned into Wartortle and Venosaur.
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Post by cascade88 on May 9, 2008 12:17:14 GMT 12
^ The concern would be that the writers may not be thinking the same way. They must have something planned since May's Squirtle and bulbasaur turned into Wartortle and Venosaur. Well, doesn't Gary have a Blastoise? If I'm right in thinking that he does, then that would mean that there is a fully evolved Kanto starter represented by 3 of the main characters Pokemon. Well, okay, Gary isn't really a main character anymore, but he used to be. Anyway, if that's the case, then they maybe were just wanting to represent that--fully evolved forms for all 3 starters.
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Post by Matkin22 on May 9, 2008 12:18:55 GMT 12
Vineshipping isn't dead. Evolution doesn't change a Pokemon's feelings THAT much. Just look at Chikoshipping.
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Post by cascade88 on May 9, 2008 12:21:25 GMT 12
Vineshipping isn't dead. Evolution doesn't change a Pokemon's feelings THAT much. Just look at Chikoshipping. Good point.
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Post by narutoninja44 on May 9, 2008 12:32:24 GMT 12
And look at Mawile from Once in a Mawile, it suddenly LOST intrest once Lombre evolved into Ludicolo. Not to be the voice of negativity, but this was an important shipping to parallelus. Now its kinda broken. -starts picking up broken pieces trying to fix it- Are the writers telling us something throug this?=(
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Post by DaveTheFishandChipsGuy on May 9, 2008 12:34:09 GMT 12
Vineshipping isn't dead. Evolution doesn't change a Pokemon's feelings THAT much. Just look at Chikoshipping. Yes! Someone brings up my fave HumanXPokemon ship! Sorry bout that. But equally, look at Charizard. Well for a while anyway. And look what happened in Hoenn with that Mawile and Brocks Lombre/Ludicolo. That changed as soon as the evolution took place. Unless Ash's Bulbasaur has evolved (which he is more than capable of doing, yet I doubt it will happen) I severely doubt VineShipping will be as strong for us as it used to be. Let's face it. When you're a MASSIVE Venusaur, are you going to be interested in a little Bulbasaur? That strikes me as being the Pokemon equivilent of Paedophillia, due to a Bulbasaur representing the 'childhood' of a Venusaur. Again, my main worry is that May no longer has a tie to Pallet Town, and a convenient excuse to come and see Ash. She can't visit out of the blue and be asked why and say 'I wanted to see Bulbasaur'. Although, if that did happen, I'd much rather she said 'I came to see you Ash, because I love you.' And now I will step back, and wait to be lynched/bricked.
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Post by Praetor on May 9, 2008 13:54:04 GMT 12
Mawile was an exception, she only liked lombre for its naiveness. But when it turned into a more consciously thinking ludicolo, her feelings changed. On a side note, Dave, is the word paedophillia spelled like that in the U.K? It is spelled pedophilia in the U.S.
Venosaur's and Bulbasaur's feelings for each other exist because their friendship turned into a budding romance and because of their trainer's feelings for each other. Let's hope that the now Venosaur and bulbasaur still has feelings for each other. I especially hope that Ash's Bulbasaur turned or will turn into a Venosaur.
Since May can't use the ' I came here to get my Bulbasaur' reason to visit Pallet Town, and if she does visit like she did after the Hoenn league, then it could be used as a hint for us. What other reason would there be for May to be at Pallet Town other than to catch up with Ash?
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